Molokan Underground

Dan and Red,
I studied and memorized the prayers of another man, maxim when I thought that's what being a christian was. I know a couple of the "O sweet Jesus" prayers of another man.
I don't know where an when we or anyone was instructed by God to pray the words of another?

Another man? They were from God. Just because you reject them like an atheist that rejects the Bible as being "from man" does not change them.

Our True Molokan Forefathers- WERE WAY before macxim's time. Read pages 20-30 in the spirt and life.? Don't those words mean anything to you?

Yes, Dalmatov, Uklien set us on the path....but we haven't stood still. To not continue and travel on the path will get you no where. You advocate, standing still.

Red,
We have no secret place on .net. In fact some of us welcome discussion over coffee or tea or what ever. Honestly, The Maxcimisti are allmost impossible to discuss the spirit and life with fade-face. They cannot support it with the Bible and they shy from it? Why is that? Talk on here is so tiny and of small value. Why are True Christians willing to share and listen and give and take the Gospel with anyone and the Maxcimisti are not?
The Bible is not "The Same old rhetoric." The Truth doesn't change as we feel needed.

I will addresss this on another post.

There is a person on there that cannot even pick between the Bible or The Spirit and Life? Doesn't that say something.?

Yes it does, both are truth. How can you accept one truth and reject another truth. You must accept all of it, or none of it.

Red, my issues about that book and the bad turn Molokanism of Today took is not stemmed from the 70's. It just that at that time, many were convicted to read the Bible on thier own and then the spirit and life and they saw the problem. And that truth remains today.

Don't tell me what happened in the 70's...I was there when much of this happened. I may have been rather young, but I know what I saw and I know what conversations took place. And had plenty of conversations to those involved while much older.

Red,
You read WAY to many dogmas and creeds and doctrines and stuff about other religions. You started with that and the spirit and life and then you added the Bible in more as of recent.
All one needs to do is follow the Truth and push the false away when it comes. If we "study" false religions and try to squeez in the truth it will really get confusing

And yet, you are trying to push these same dogmas, creeds and doctrines. Confusing? Thats the thing, I have no confusion of my faith, yet you seem very confused.

Counterfieters ONLY study authentic money and when something is off it's easy to spot.

And yet you cannot stop talking about the Spirit and Life. What does that say?


You should know more of what YOU believe in rather than what others believe in

And yet, you are trying to get me and many more to believe in what others believe in. Furthermore, your trying to patronize me again, like I don't know my faith. Subscribe to all the delusions you want, it will not change things.

Next time you are in town-What do you see we meet for coffee? I am sure we can talk as we talk when we allways see each other; nicely? We can share with each other and see what God has to say to us? Not to prove each other wrong-but to just see?

My next post should decide that.

Red,
We have no secret place on .net. In fact some of us welcome discussion over coffee or tea or what ever. Honestly, The Maxcimisti are allmost impossible to discuss the spirit and life with fade-face. They cannot support it with the Bible and they shy from it? Why is that? Talk on here is so tiny and of small value. Why are True Christians willing to share and listen and give and take the Gospel with anyone and the Maxcimisti are not?
The Bible is not "The Same old rhetoric." The Truth doesn't change as we feel needed.


You don't have a secret place on .net? Oh I believe you completely...you definately do not have a secret place on .net.
But lets talk about deception shall we? Satan deceived Eve into partaking of the forbidden fruit. Satan tried to deceive Christ when he was in the desert fasting. Long story short, Satan has a very long history of decieving others. But moving on....

Maxcimisti are impossible to discuss the Spirit and Life? Ummm...No. The problem is, you want to convince them to reject the Spirit and Life and renounce their faith. And when you can't accomplish that, then you say "its impossible". Your playing the good cop and bad cop routine.

Can't support it with the Bible? Of course they can, however, when its pointed out with Biblical context, you and many of your compatriots pull a Seeking and say "No its not". And then of course you and your compatriots, reject the Biblical interpretation for one favored and formulated by man.

True Christians do share the Gospel...and yet, you proven to be more "Maxcimisti" than the Maxcimisti, you can't seem to stop talking about him. Isn't ironic that those who accept the Spirit and Life can also discuss Biblical topics (and you are fully aware of this as a former member)...but an apostate Molokan can only discuss what's wrong with Molokans and can only start topics on the same basis?

Now where was I...oh thats right, I cut off to address the rest of your post, I was bringing up the point about deception.

Yes, you don't have secret place on .net, but you do have a secret place. And you purposely left that part out for the purposes of deceiving. You are mincing your words and giving half-truths for the only purpose to hide your true intentions and make yourself look "good".

Honestly Paul, do you think God is blind? Do you think he won't help his servants? How can you sit there willingly for all intents and purposes lie, and think the end justifies the means? And your invitation? Let me guess, should I or anyone else accept, I'm sure you won't be alone whereas I will. You'll have a tag team partner of sorts to help you in your attempt to convert me. Let me tell you now....you won't. I've been through this type of "invite for coffee" before (actually more than once). You're not fooling anyone. Its a classic "confronational evangelism" approach.

...and yes, you don't have a place on .net.......but you do have a place.

http://ucmf.19.forumer.com/index.php

I'm sure you will recognize the web-site...and don't bother deleting it. I took screen shots. Funny thing is, I never did set out for looking for this site...kind of just stumbled across it by accident....after I prayed about uncovering the apostate Molokans deception. You are a deceiver. And we both know who practices such things.

I'll keep this up for a few minutes....to give you a chance to view it. If not, I'm sure one of your compatriots can foward it to you. I'm IP banning you after this. Your only intention here is to keep your wounds unhealed and to lash out at others, and being an apostate, helps you acheive those goals. I don't have time to deal with bitter people who hide behind phony smiles.